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Alberta's Medical Experts Speak! April 12th - Edmonton

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On Monday, March 29, 2021 Alberta’s Multidisciplinary Team of David Redman, Dr. Roger Hodkinson, Dr. Dennis Modry and David Dickson extended an invitation to Premier Kenney, the COVID-19 response team, including Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Deena Hinshaw, and Minister of Health Tyler Shandro, to participate in a public forum, an academic debate, to discuss the Alberta Government’s response to the pandemic. The invitation was to engage in a transparent public discussion on behalf of Albertans regarding: The actual danger of SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 by age group. Identification and review of the Alberta Government’s pandemic response team’s supporting science, data and testing methodology that are being utilized to justify lockdowns and public health orders. The absence of an Emergency Management process, resulting in the absence of Due Diligence required in an emergency. The effectiveness and relevance of lockdowns and restrictions. How to shift the fear? That the risk from the virus is not at all proportionate to the massive societal harms caused by the lockdowns and public health orders. Given that the deadline of Monday, April 6th to engage in debate has expired, and given the unprecedented decision of returning to Stage 1, the press conference is intended to draw the public’s attention to a counter-narrative that vigorously opposes the Government’s current position. For over a year, the Alberta Government has imposed arbitrary restrictions on the rights and freedoms of the people of Alberta, resulting in unnecessary death of our beloved seniors, causing collateral damage to society, be that mental health, physical health, social health, children’s mental, physical and development health and wellbeing, limited access to healthcare, and devastating many businesses, small and large, across Alberta. The inhumane treatment of the people of Alberta must end.


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Blunder

- 3 years ago  

I fully support the views and the courage of these two doctors. This post expands on Yagma's previous post on the dangers of lock-downs and mass vaccinations campaigns--specifically peer reviewed science explaining why lock-downs have promoted more dangerous variants and, when combined with a mass vaccination campaign (using a non -specific vaccine) during an actual pandemic, has and will make the situation far worse--possibly the most flawed unscientific human experiment in the history of humankind which may cause massive depopulation of the planet---I’m afraid we are in the midst of the biggest blunder in the history of mankind and nobody is questioning anything or sitting up and taking notice---sheep being led to the slaughter. The talking heads on TV and those advising gov’t have little training on the immune pathogenesis of the virus and population dynamics of viral infection during a pandemic. Dr. Geeert Bosche used to work for Bill Gates and before the pandemic was a world renowned vaccinologist and virologist---now simply labelled as an anti-vaxxer to discredit him. The following is a particularly apt quote from Dr. Bosche's website: No one, for that matter, should be granted a right to implement large-scale pharmaceutic and non-pharmaceutic immune interventions during a viral pandemic without having gained an in-depth understanding of the immune pathogenesis of the virus and the population dynamics of infection and immunity that naturally result from the introduction of a new virus in large parts of the human population. Everything that has happened so far and currently happening (e.g. higher and increased infection rates in the young with more severe outcomes and now mortality of fully vaccinated people dying from the variants) is explained by Dr. Geert Bosche using science. Few people have raised the alarm and those have have been vilified, censored or suppressed. Geert predicted there would be a rise in the percentage of young people being hospitalized and dying from the variants and explains how and why. He explains that if we continue on our current course of lock-downs and mass vaccination we may never be able to develop herd immunity. He points out the recent emerging deaths in the UK of fully vaccinated people from Covid variants (which now, ironically, may start to be labeled as non-covid deaths to continue the current gov’t narrative). He has published open letter and numerous layman’s paper why mass lockdowns promoted more dangerous variants and when combined with vaccines (not specific to the circulating variants and those yet to come), will, within a very short time, bring on a tsunami of infections, hospitalizations and deaths which is already starting to occur in highly vaccinated populations such as Chile and the US. People like Dr. Bosche has put his life, credibility and what was a renowned reputation on the line to educate medical doctors, governments and those advising governments about what he says is the greatest human blunder in the history of humankind. He welcomes and encourages a transparent and respectful debate amongst qualified scientists and his fed up with those who simply try to discredit him by calling him names such as an “antivaxxer” which, of course, he is not. Geert did talk about the new variants harming the ability of the killer cells to activate and evidence that the variants are now harming our innate immune system and refers to recently published research (peer reviewed) which, if true, means we are all in trouble because of knee jerk reaction policies of government and world leaders unsupported by peer reviewed science or consensus in the scientific community. I truly believe this is pivotal point in our history. Our children are now at much greater risk of infection and worse outcomes from variants that the lock-downs promoted and now exacerbated by the experimental mass vaccination. Here is a copy of the e-mail to the Premier, ministers, opposition leaders and health critics. From: Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 9:37 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: FW: T cells and Killer cells and the False hope of Covid Vaccines in the midst of an actual Pandemic- Biology 101 Importance: High I know everyone is extremely busy. But what I am writing about is about life and death on a global scale and requires each of you as well as government leaders, ministers, opposition leaders and health critics across the globe to take a step back and re-think the approach to this pandemic without any pre-conceived notions about how best to battle a virus which is in a pandemic state using basic principles of science and virology. It requires fresh eyes, an open mind and the application of common sense. It requires each of you to check your egos and the media narrative at the door and make decisions for the population as a whole based on indisputable laws of nature and biology and peer reviewed science. I’m no scientist but when credible and reputable experts in vaccinology and virology around the world challenge the approach touted by the WHO (which approach was blindly followed by other countries and local governments) without any transparent dialogue with other experts holding contrary views, I sat up and took notice. And when those same contrarians tell me things about what a virus does when threatened and pressured (i.e. mutations for survival) which I know to be true from my high school biology and tell me that never before has humankind tried the human experiment of mass global lock-downs combined with vaccines that are non-specific to circulating variants, all done during an actual pandemic, alarm bells started to ring. Below is my e-mail to Dr. Hinshaw asking her to re-think what we are doing and explain scientifically with peer reviewed science why she believes the approach taken of lock-downs/restrictions combined with non-specific vaccines during an actual pandemic will succeed and has not actually made things even worse. Where is the peer reviewed science that supports this. This is the question that should have been addressed from the start. From what we know about resistant bacteria and similarly how a virus will select mutations for its survival when threatened and pressured, why would one think that vaccinating a population with a relatively unproven vaccine and one that does not protect against all the existing and expected variants would somehow solve the problem or end the pandemic? Common sense told me (and many others experts and lay people like me) that pressuring a virus like we did with lock-downs and the restrictions would produce mutations and variants far more dangerous and transmissible than the original Covid 19. That is exactly what has happened. A number of experts predicted this result but they were silenced, censored, mis-quoted or vilified by the media for not following the narrative we were told would get us out of this mess. The “Great Barrington Declaration” was conventional, established science – supported by a huge number of qualified people – even Nobel prize winning scientists and yet was attacked and discredited by the powers that be. Youtube has taken down qualified epidemiologists from highly credible universities who are saying exactly what this e-mail says. There are some interesting crowd behaviours that have emerged that are driving these policy decisions. Public health doctors and especially the media have been overly sensitive to individual hard cases having little regard for what science says is best for the general population. Prior to the emergence of the variants (which we promoted to occur), the average age of death in the population was about 81 and the average age of death of a Covid patient was 81-- doesn’t that suggest that the disease was an average cause of death? On average, the population was not dying early from this disease. But now your polices and those across the globe have promoted more dangerous variants resistant to the vaccines and now starting to be able to evade our innate immune system and putting everyone at risk. The free world militaries and security agencies have been warning that our societies are under a sustained cyber misinformation attack. Considering that almost all of our press coverage is now based on social media based research, it is not surprising that governments can’t make sensible decisions. Governments of the free world are simply reacting to the vocal crowd or ‘bots’. Cognitive science is showing more and more how our “reason” is nothing of the sort – we behave like herd animals being led off a cliff, possibly by ‘bots’. Geert Bossche is just one of those experts that I refer to (the link below is to one of his interviews). He predicted what the virus would do because of all the restrictive measures---that variants would emerge, that they would evade the vaccines, that you would see a surge in cases in the younger age group with more sever outcomes and how we have put our own innate immune system at risk. I pray to God guys like Geert are wrong but Japan just announced a variant which can now circumvent all current vaccines as Geert predicted. In addition, a noted epidemiologist out of Minnesota said the other day we are in a 4th waive—this particular expert said he is very worried and thinks it could be a tidal wave (Geert used the word tsunami). And the other morning on the radio, a professor out of Manitoba was talking about the human innate immune system (vs. our acquired immune system which Geert talked about) and how the variants will be able to trick our immune system such that our killer cells cannot eradicate the virus----Geeert Bossche talked and predicted all these things including that the mutations would begin to attack younger people and cause more severe outcomes using known science explained in layman’s terms AND why our flawed approach has made things so much worse than had we not intervened with both lock downs and using vaccines not specific to the circulating variants during a pandemic. There is no peer reviewed science saying that lockdowns combined with vaccines (not specific to the variants) can or will succeed---in fact, I and reputable but silenced scientists fear we have made things far worse because our approach threatened and pressured the virus into these mutations making things much worse and now experts like Geert say we will never be able to achieve herd immunity. More and more this is looking like the biggest and most flawed human experiment in the history of man/humankind. The mistake, of course, was too much focus on the individual or an individual life during a pandemic, not the population or the greater good. Doctors rationalized the approach saying hospitals would be over-run but instead of heeding science and building more beds and focus on treatments, we decided to cower and lock down thereby promoting the virus selection process to mutate to more dangerous variants. Yes, protect the vulnerable as best you can, build temporary facilities and focus on treatment but there are going to be causalities in a pandemic no matter what approach is taken. As noted below, there are very promising treatments, the Israel treatments (on of which is Allocetra) being 100% successful so far. However, I’m afraid that our government intervention has made things much worse to the point that the general population has been put at risk without any chance of returning to normalcy. Of course, none of the comments address the trampling of privacy and human rights and huge social, financial and human costs of lockdowns. That is another topic for another day. Please question your course. Please get other government officials to begin a transparent dialogue that involves credible experts and scientists from all sides, not just the ones promoting the current narrative as the survival of our children and perhaps humankind depends on it assuming it is not already too late. With the greatest respect for your difficult jobs, From: Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2021 6:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: FW: T cells and Killer cells and the False hope of Covid Vaccines in the midst of an actual Pandemic- Biology 101 Importance: High Dr. Hinshaw: I implore you and your provincial and federal counterparts to read this e-mail and watch the interview of this very credible expert vaccinologist who predicted what would happen if governments around the world ignored fundamental principles of biology and virology. For the sake of humankind, put aside politics, political correctness or the narrative that the naïve media want you to follow. Stop, look and listen to other credible experts, experts who have spent their professional lives on this subject but who been vilified or censored because they don’t follow the current media or gov’t narrative of lockdowns and vaccines. This expert and others have attempted to explain to gov’t officials since the beginning of the pandemic that an approach which focuses on an individual and not the population will not stop the spread and will only threaten/pressure the virus and cause it to mutate to more deadly forms and only make things worse, way worse to the point we may never ever be able to overcome the virus and its variants. If you read/listen to anything this week, you must listen to this video recorded on March 8th. This expert explains why we will experience a Tsunami of infections and why we will see a huge spike in younger people which, in fact, we are now starting to see in high vaccination regions such as Chile, the US, Israel, the UK and here in Canada. It explains how lock downs and now vaccinations in the midst of a pandemic have put the virus under huge threat such that the virus had no choice but to select mutations to make the virus more transmittable and more severe ---our mass intervention on a global scale has and will worsen the situation beyond what you can imagine, possibly threatening human survival. The chance of achieving herd immunity is now slim to none. I know this sounds alarmist but when I hear an expert speak on a subject using basic principles of nature to explain what is going on, I sit up and listen. Never in the history of mankind has there been a mass intervention on this scale to pressure and threaten a virus during the midst of an actual pandemic. All these so-called scientists and so-called experts on TV are simply talking heads without peer reviewed science behind them and many of them are advising the government, ignoring basic cellular and viral biology focusing on the individual rather than the population. Will you find a rebuttal response to this interview or someone criticizing this expert–yes, but I am skeptical of these other so-called experts and don’t find much in peered reviewed science other than support for the explanation presented in this interview of Geert Vanden Bossche---and now any who speaks out against the gov’t/media narrative is quickly labeled or censored so you can no longer read or listen to other credible scientists---the approach taken by you is the first (human) experiment of its kind (on a global scale) and we are losing and we are losing because we have promoted the mutations and variations by a flawed approach thereby putting hundreds of millions if not billions of people at risk and our entire way of life. Sorry for the pessimism but we somehow ignored the basics ---maybe because we are humans and as humans think we can outsmart nature or change the basic principles of life on a cellular level. Ms. Hinshaw you are bright and have medical training—watch this and explain to me why people like Dr. Bosche (with far more training than you in this field) are or isn’t giving us the plain truth about our immune system and how and why a virus selects mutations for its survival and why society’s approach has been dead wrong. Many credible and noble winning scientists share the same views but they were drowned out by the narrative we see and hear every day on TV, radio and the censored internet/social media platforms. I pray that people like Dr. Bosche and others are dead wrong but things are playing out like he said they would, the way nature dictates. I am praying for the best and planning for the worst. Of course my comments don’t attempt to factor in the total social/human and financial cost of lockdowns which is a topic for another day—what matters right now is getting the approach right for the sake of humankind. Please be open minded and at least ask the right questions and start the dialogue before it is too late: : https://link.edgepilot.com/s/bebf32fe/l-wZSvxMsEmnLjwwUn4Cag?u=https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/03/27/why-mass-covid-19-vaccination-must-end-now.aspx?cid_medium=etaf%26cid=share

Nic_rca

- 3 years ago  

I love that these guys spoke out but is anyone actually going to do anything about it? Are we just going to let these lock downs go on forever? My business will not survive. Help

rokdr

- 3 years ago  

Most Israelis are now fully vaccnated, as they were one of the first countries to get their order in with Pfizer. Today, new positives are just trickling and deaths per day are down to a handful. Lockdowns are being lifted. There's hope for us therefore.

MichaelAttoe

- 3 years ago  

Rokdr: Curious how everywhere else were these vaccines are being given those who have had them are testing positive for covid. You conveniently forget to mention that worldwide the mRNA shots (these are not vaccines) are causing people to die very soon after receiving the second shot and that huge numbers of others have had life-altering adverse events. You also don't seem to be aware of the fact that the same mRNA technology went through animal trials when they tried to develop the same technology for a coronavirus in which all of the animals died when they were later exposed to another coronavirus. We will see how the Israelis fare next fall at the first sign of a coronavirus exposure. Many eminently qualified scientist from the round the world are sounding the warning about possible Mass deaths cause baby this shot, but of course I'm sure you went and got your shot without doing any due diligence whatsoever and just blindly became part of an experiment on the entirety of humanity. Good luck with that!

Ian van de Burgt

- 3 years ago  

Here are a few interesting facts about Dr. Roger Hodkinson's opinions: Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is a genius (and admirable epidemiologist) whom Hodkinson quotes: Bhattacharya has now softened his language (that the lockdowns were the worst public health disaster "ever" -- he is now saying the worst in the past 100 years (https://www.newsweek.com/stanford-doctor-calls-lockdowns-biggest-public-health-mistake-weve-ever-made-1574540). He made that correction in March, but this video from a month later does not acknowledge that important nuance (it keeps the misquote). This video ends with Hodkinson saying, "Nothing works to stop the spread of this virus through society" and "nothing can work". He says he's not an anti-vaxxer. I sure wonder if he thinks the vaccinations that have worked so well in Isreal "do not work." He also says that lockdowns don't work. I'd sure love to know how he explains the comparison between Sweden and its Scandinavian neighbours, Denmark and Norway, who locked down more than Sweden and saw much less death (7% increased mortality in Sweden with almost none in Norway and none in Denmark). One of the reasons I questions the conclusions of Hodkinson is because in a separate interview he said a study from Denmark proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that masks don't work. I'm really glad that here is has softened that to "no consensus on whether or not they work". I wonder if he wore masks when he was doing surgery. And lastly, he fails to mention that the spread of herd immunity is the goal of the current public health programs. but the problems which he dismisses is that the schools and emergency rooms would be overwhelmed if people let the virus "run its course" and stayed home while they felt sick. A quick look at what's going on in Ontario right now, and Brazil over the past few months, are rebuttals to these points. People have tried it. And it does hurt the systems that are not built to handle these kinds of surges. I'd say he'd be right if we had more nurses, doctors, and hospital beds.

MichaelAttoe

- 3 years ago  

Yes, and there was also a video of a representative from the WHO very early on in this pandemic who stated that lockdowns were unnecessary and had no effect. Within a day that person was muzzled and forced to issue a retraction from the Chinese Communist party controlled WHO. Your statements about Sweden are ridiculously simplistic. For a proper analysis of Sweden's experience with this virus, I would suggest that you visit the YouTube channel of Ivor Cummins.

Nic_rca

- 3 years ago  

I love that these guys spoke out but is anyone actually going to do anything about it? Are we just going to let these lock downs go on forever? My business will not survive. Help

Nic_rca

- 3 years ago  

I love that these guys spoke out but is anyone actually going to do anything about it? Are we just going to let these lock downs go one forever? My business will not survive. Help

YYYBBB

- 3 years ago  

These two brave Doctors deserve credit for being heroes and speaking out with the truth. More are needed in to join them in this war against tyranny and yes it is a war. God bless you both and peace be with you.

yagma

- 3 years ago  

Former Pfizer VP: It’s ‘entirely possible’ vaccine campaigns ‘will be used for massive-scale depopulation’, Dr. Michael Yeadon, a former Vice President and Chief Science Officer for Pfizer, spoke with great urgency to America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) late last week warning that the drive to inject the largest possible portion of the population with experimental COVID-19 vaccines may have the intention of “massive-scale depopulation.” https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/former-pfizer-vp-to-aflds-entirely-possible-this-will-be-used-for-massive-scale-depopulation UK patients with learning disabilities given do not resuscitate orders if they had COVID-19 https://thehill.com/policy/international/538767-watchdog-says-uk-patients-with-learning-disabilities-were-given-do-not?rl=1 Virologist: ‘We Are Going to Pay Huge Price’ for COVID Mass Vaccination Campaign Geert Vanden Bossche, DMV, Ph.D, international vaccine expert, previous head of vaccine development office (Germany) and Chief Scientific Officer of Univac, in an open letter to WHO and in a follow-up video interview, says that by vaccinating everyone with a vaccine that doesn’t prevent transmission, we are destroying people’s immune systems, and setting the stage for a global health disaster, and that "We Are Going to Pay Huge Price’ for COVID Mass Vaccination Campaign" https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/virologist-huge-price-covid-mass-vaccination/ Michigan Officials Investigating After 246 'fully vaccinated' Residents Get COVID-19, 3 die: Report https://www.foxnews.com/health/michigan-officials-investigating-fully-vaccinated-residents-get-covid-19-3-die-report 6 Apr, 2021 Texas becomes 2nd US state to BAN vaccine passports https://www.rt.com/usa/520295-texas-bans-vaccine-passports-florida/ 'Divisive and Discriminatory': 70 UK MPs Sign Pledge to Oppose Government's COVID Passport Plans https://sputniknews.com/uk/202104021082517029-divisive-and-discriminatory-70-uk-mps-sign-pledge-to-oppose-governments-covid-passport-plans/ April 5, 2021, Risk of Covid-19 transmission via surfaces is less than 1 in 10,000, CDC says in new cleaning guidelines https://www.rt.com/usa/520185-cdc-covid-cleaning-surfaces-transmission/ University of Chicago Study: Cannabis (CBD) Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Replication in Human Lungs According to the researchers at the University of Chicago in Illinois, cannabidiol (CBD), a chemical in the Cannabis sativa plant, also known as marijuana, and its metabolite 7-OH-CBD, blocked SARS-CoV-2 replication in lung epithelial cells. The researchers also found that CBD appeared to inhibit viral gene expression and reverse many of the effects SARS-CoV-2 has on host gene transcription. In addition, for those patients who had been taking CBD, the incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection was up to an order of a magnitude (10x) lower than in patients who had not been taking CBD. https://sputniknews.com/science/202103151082351105-cannabis-inhibits-sars-cov-2-replication-in-human-lungs-study-suggests/ Millions of elderly and vulnerable UK residence will get free Vitamin D from government after study finds 80 percent of Covid-19 victims in hospital were Vitamin D deficient http://www.scoopyweb.com/2020/11/millions-of-elderly-and-vulnerable-will.html KNOW YOUR CHARTER RIGHTS: Canadian & American Police Officers Talk Fighting Illegal nation destroying Covid Lockdowns https://www.bitchute.com/video/tdguwvFEjmUM/

rey_vergeta

- 3 years ago  

Guys, Download this files; "Refusal of Vaccination/s for a cause" (5 pages)or "Agreement between Vaccine Providers and Vaccinated Party"(8 pages) also you can use the 10 Principles of the Nuremberg Code. (1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.)

Max57

- 3 years ago  

thank you for this video, finally doctors who speak out against all these ridiculous measures, worthy of dictatorial regimes, where the governments managed by incompetent people are afraid. In Switzerland it's unfortunately like in Alberta. The government imposes hysterical measures, thousands of companies have closed because of this. The cases of depression among teenagers and young people have increased by 80% in the last 2 years. And here too, the government is talking about a vaccination passport that will allow people to travel. But here the only two vaccines proposed here are these famous vaccines based on gene therapy, like ASTRA ZENECCA and MODERNA, NOTHING ELSE... It's a pity that in Switzerland there is no expert brave enough to also like you, to finally tell the population about these useless measures. Thanks again for your help. Max from Switzerland

KloudkKreeper

- 3 years ago  

Oooooh Alberta....

Shaz60

- 3 years ago  

So encouraged to hear TRUTH AND COMMON SENSE! Thank you for speaking out, greetings from masked and locked-down Northern Ireland; can't for the life of me figure out why folk seem to continually swallow the 'fear' narrative hook, line & sinker for over a year now.... Wake up, people!!!

Alpineman

- 3 years ago  

Goes to tell you that there is more behind this then just covid, the Premier of Alberta, look at Ontario Premier Doug Ford's net worth December 2019 was around $3 million and on February 2021 went up to $50 Million, where does all this extra $$$$ come from??????. Would like to see Kennys net worth before and after.

YYYBBB

- 3 years ago  

Follow the money and you find out who sold their souls

Nephilium

- 3 years ago  

Excellent! The situation is worse in Quebec. Complete abdication of logic, respect and reason. All they do is bark orders and use fear, Orwellian language, and coercion. It's beyond the pale and despicable. No evidence to support any of their failed measures. The province - along with others I imagine including Ontario - should be placed under immediate trusteeship. Sadly, the Federal government itself continues to be a spectacular failure. Trudeau and Tam should resign.

Ninsuna

- 3 years ago  

Dr. Hodkinson would likely be less bewildered by the irrational policies and procedures around the CCP virus if he WERE a "Great Reset-er".

Ninsuna

- 3 years ago  

Sounds like the Premier got a memo from Davos.

Candace

- 3 years ago  

Thank you

FreedomAid

- 3 years ago  

So, those patients in critical and intensive care don't exist? Does Alberta have unlimited capacity for an influx Covid patients as well as other comorbidity patients that need care? I didn't realize we had so many healthcare specialists laying around doing nothing. Open everything back up and bring it on!

Nephilium

- 3 years ago  

No one is saying that. You're failing to understand trade-offs.

Era1521

- 3 years ago  

To PathologyCoast https://tnc.news/2020/12/13/ontario-counts-suicide-victims-as-covid-19-fatalities/

FreedomAid

- 3 years ago  

This has no sources. No references or quotes. I wouldn't trust this as credible

PathologyCoast

- 3 years ago  

Hey! Wait a minute. Can you please elaborate on those numbers that you presented on mortality rates. I would also like to examine your evidence on deaths being wrongfully classified. Have you examined the reports and bodies yourself?

Era1521

- 3 years ago  

https://tnc.news/2020/12/13/ontario-counts-suicide-victims-as-covid-19-fatalities/

Era1521

- 3 years ago  

https://thespectator.info/2020/04/09/hospitals-get-paid-more-to-list-patients-as-covid-19-and-three-times-as-much-if-the-patient-goes-on-ventilator-video/

Nephilium

- 3 years ago  

There are studies and reports on that. Look for it. All public. Medical journals and media.

seedofchange

- 3 years ago  

Well said! These two put millions of their colleagues to shame for ignoring their most sacred oath and expose the harmful machinations of power mad politicians and 'social engineers'. End all lockdowns and return our civil liberties immediately or face the consequences ....

growup

- 3 years ago  

Mr. Modry you spent about a minute talking about your credentials, yet failed to mention the last few years of your infamous career where many of your colleagues questioned your clinical skills. I am deeply disturbed by your half truths that are misdirecting Albertans.

seedofchange

- 3 years ago  

What 'half truths' would those be then? Instead of indulging in ad hominen attacks, the favorite, that somewhat worn out and overused tactic to 'discredit' anyone presenting a differing opinion, would you please point out exactly where these two are incorrect in their Covid-19 analysis? I might add that you should save some your opprobrium for those politicians, corporate and medical practitioners who HAVE ignored any evidence not suited to their individual and collective reward based narratives. Finally ... your moniker 'growup' .... respectfully suggest you take your own advice. You're going to be found on the wrong side of history ....

Nephilium

- 3 years ago  

Point out the half-truths.

anon_alberta

- 3 years ago  

therapeutic treatment is the only path forward...we need effective treatment at time of diagnosis for +patients and their contacts in order to drastically reduce hospital admission and mortality/morbidity. A successful treatment protocol not only exists but is being used in many cities and countries. The evidence is strong, the medications used are extremely safe and widely used around the world and very cheap. Patients must demand better care, this is not hopeless, with early outpatient treatment we can reduce hospitalization and death by up to 85%...which means we can not only save lives, we can go rapidly get back to living. These physicians are on the front line in research and treatment of patients. We are not alone...the whole world is going through this...if ICUs and hospitals in houston are having success what in the world are we waiting for? https://covid19criticalcare.com/videos-and-press/flccc-releases/press-release-april-9-2021-statement-on-recent-washington-post-story/

Brumsith

- 3 years ago  

Well said, and thank you!

tnt666

- 3 years ago  

Would love to see these two debate Tam and Henry or Arruda or de Villa!

MomelyssaOnt

- 3 years ago  

Yes

Nephilium

- 3 years ago  

Indeed. They need to be challenged.

Mg60

- 3 years ago  

If 1 in 15000 is the death risk rate of COVID. Then with a population of 4 million we would have had 200 deaths not 2000 without safety measures. The number doesn’t add up. Please explain thank you.

RikZak

- 3 years ago  

Dr. Hodkinson and Dr. Modry explain clearly how allegedly Covid deaths are recorded. Listen again and then don't take their word for it - study the facts carefully. Pay careful attention to the age demographics, particularly age and comorbidities, and how Covid records deaths – https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#comorbidities

RikZak

- 3 years ago  

Dr. Hodkinson and Dr. Modry explain clearly how allegedly Covid deaths are recorded. Listen again and then don't take their word for it - study the facts carefully. Pay careful attention to the age demographics, particularly age and comorbidities, and how Covid records deaths – https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#comorbidities

lulu

- 3 years ago  

1 in 15,000 does not represent the risk for the whole population. Dr Hodkinson specified that rate 1:15,000 for the WORKING WELL (those under 65). Your math is correct and this is why the statistic is so very astounding. 1:15,000 translates to the roughly 200 deaths in those under 65 who died WITH (but not demonstrably OF) Covid-19 in the past year. The remaining 1,800 deaths in Alberta attributed to Covid were not amongst the working well, but were in those over 65.

Nephilium

- 3 years ago  

What 'safety measures'? Lockdowns, masks and social distancing? There's a reason why they're called 'non-pharmaceutical interventions' because there is no science and data to back them up. In fact, the literature on their failures is growing fast. Masks we've known for over 100 years through multiple RCT and meta-analysis reviews are ineffective. In fact, it's very likely these measures are prolonging the agony and adding to the infection rates. We're in the endemic stage now. There's nothing left to fight. If you keep repeating this madness and forcing masks all you're doing is shadow boxing and bound to erode public trust for those who are informed.

RikZak

- 3 years ago  

I would suggest to those that are panicked, in some cases, so hysterical, so compliant to this lockdown and wish to understand why how it happened to them, read the foundational and seminal book on brand strategy titled PROPAGANDA by Edward Bernays. Edward Bernays is the pioneer of the methods used to manipulate public opinion today. First published in 1928, Bernays lay bare the techniques he and his collaborators developed for the U.S. Government between 1914-1919 in a department called the U.S. Committee on Public Information. These methods were used by governments worldwide during this pandemic.

P90

- 3 years ago  

I will seek out that book. Thankyou. I think it is also known as psychographic warfare which was Bernays specialty. Idk.

vladtia

- 3 years ago  

What was wrong with the old system? If someone was sick with a contagious disease THAT ONE HOUSE would get a warning stapled on the front door. Medical professionals would attend there. Society continued, hospitals did hospital things.

Mosquito1

- 3 years ago  

Thank you gentlemen for taking the risks that should not be risks! You caring honesty is such a welcome sight in these the stupidest times ever!! Yahweh’s Greatest Blessings to you all and your all!!

Alfred

- 3 years ago  

Finally some truth escaped. Enough of COVID captivety!

MomelyssaOnt

- 3 years ago  

Agree

BuddhaBuddy

- 3 years ago  

Hinshaw, Tam, et al, should charged with medical malpractice if not criminal negligence.

Abe58

- 3 years ago  

Wow, someone finally bravely telling the truth . Thank you

BuddhaBuddy

- 3 years ago  

Between the mainstream media, global elite, politicians, and 2 to 5% earning regular wages and pensions via government positions, words will not work. That's unfortunate but true.

wwg1wgaalberta

- 3 years ago  

I cannot thank you 2 gentlemen enough for stepping up and using your voices for ALL of us! We need to gather - pick up on the most brave and wonderful step you just took and get our freedoms back, strong and unchangeable! Please don't stop now - we appreciate what you have done but we have far to go! Be safe and strong! Thank you!

MomelyssaOnt

- 3 years ago  

Agree !! All of canada 🇨🇦 should listen to them